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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Mar 3, 2010 12:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: which marathon would be worse

YOKO or DONNA?

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Mar 3, 2010 12:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

Donna, no question.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Mar 3, 2010 12:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

Oh puhleeez.. Yoko by a mile. At least Donna might sing something pleasant like Cassidy or Tomorrow is Forever. Is there a song Yoko could sing that would even be marginally enjoyable?

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Mar 3, 2010 1:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

Sure - anything from Double Fantasy or Season of Glass. The woman does a lot more than just shriek, and when she does that it is on-key and in-tune. Donna ... ?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Mar 3, 2010 1:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

I saw Yoko open for Sonic Youth in Central Park with Sean and it was suprisingly good. She just did the Plastic Ono show with Clapton and others a few weeks back. While i wouldn't put her in any type of list of great vocalists, it seems she gets a lot of undeserved hate - usually from people that haven't bothered to listen to her stuff. Aslo, she was very improtant to the Fluxus movement.

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Mar 3, 2010 3:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

I'm like one of her three fans, though I never have seen her live. The early Plastic Ono Band stuff I find tough, but the two records I mentioned above are both terrific. Season of Glass was done right after JL was killed, and is just an amazing piece of work. Kiss, Kiss, Kiss is by far the best song on Double Fantasy, and then there's the single Walking On Thin Ice, probably her best song, with the guitar solo he was working on the Night Of.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Mar 3, 2010 5:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

"Kiss, Kiss, Kiss is by far the best song on Double Fantasy"

ummm... WHAT?

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Mar 3, 2010 5:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

the Lennon songs aren't bad, but are far from his best work. Yoko, on the other hand, was just coming into her own as a songwriter, and I find those songs much more compelling. one man's opinion ...

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Mar 3, 2010 5:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

Dear Lord, other than the Dead/Dylan live versions of Joey in 1987, there is nothing I'd rather hear less than Yoko.

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Poster: bgypt Date: Mar 3, 2010 8:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

i just love the ono version of the 'plastic ono band' record from 1970. it's incredibly funky avant garde, recommended if you're into any 70s german groovers like amon duul. there seems to be a slap-back style reverb on the vocals through much of the album; her voice coming through at times like some analog synth projection. not everyone's thing, perhaps, but i dig it hard.

here's a few tracks from the album

"Greenfield Morning..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78DT-XLS_do
"Why"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9lzNXHZEQs

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Mar 3, 2010 6:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

Yoko destroyed the Beatles. And she didnt have to sing to do it...

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Mar 3, 2010 9:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

well, that is the tabloid version, isn't it? But in fact, it's all pretty well documented, and had very little to do with Yoko ...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Mar 3, 2010 10:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

scapegoats are so much easier...

funny how everyone "loves" john but no one can understand why he chose yoko.

from what I hear, koons killed the dead. made jer die in his sleep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u44szRgR9Pc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVF66GVj8zU&;feature=related



This post was modified by bluedevil on 2010-03-04 06:22:09

This post was modified by bluedevil on 2010-03-04 06:25:21

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Poster: bigwind Date: Mar 4, 2010 4:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

Hey Bluedevil,
Where did you hear what you heard?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Mar 4, 2010 5:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

in the wind....

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Poster: bigwind Date: Mar 4, 2010 5:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

Ya that wind whispers many things,I guess the best thing is to let it go in one ear and out the other.

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Mar 3, 2010 11:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

Yeah, there I go being snippy instead of helpful. Sorry about that, bad day at the office. Here's the big article by Mikal Gilmore that Rolling Stone ran just a few months ago. It's fascinating stuff. Cheers!

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/29723450/why_the_beatles_broke_upbr_the_story_behind_our_cover

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Mar 4, 2010 12:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

You are forgiven :)

Were you able to read Gilmore's story?

Do you consider Rolling Stone magazine a "tabloid?"

I happen to read the story just a few weeks ago. I was lucky enough to come across that edition of Rolling Stone magazine while having my car cleaned and lifted it from the lounge at the car wash because I found the article so facinating I wanted to finish reading it.

I cant find the story online now, but it is available from Amazon...

http://www.rollingstone.com/issue1086

Of course there were a panoply of reasons behind the demise of the Beatles, not the least of which was Allen Klein, who played a part in the demise of the Stones as well. As a teenager I used to play backgammon, among other things ;) with Klein's daughter who lived down the street from me when I was growing up. (I had to get that in here).

Gilmore's story reveals plenty of details on how Yoko played a very large part in the breakup of the Beatles. Sadly I threw the magazine out instead of returning it, but its worth tracking down if you are interested in the story.

This post was modified by Cliff Hucker on 2010-03-04 08:05:07

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Mar 4, 2010 7:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

Curious ... I passed the magazine along after reading it, so I don't have it either, but what I recall is that Yoko was an irritation, at most, and that the real reason was the long-gestating resentment between John and Paul

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Mar 4, 2010 8:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

Curious indeed. My take was that it was the disagreement over management between John and Paul, vis a vis Allen Klein (sigh).

After reading that story my feeling was that Yoko played a tremendous role in the breakup and Paul really resenting her because of Johns insistance that she play an integral role in virtually every aspect of the band, management, creative or otherwise.

Perhaps someone here still has the issue on top of a septic tank in their bathroom and cares to chime in?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Mar 4, 2010 9:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

My issue is in my garage.

This is all I can find online:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/29723450/why_the_beatles_broke_upbr_the_story_behind_our_cover

http://listeningroom.lohudblogs.com/2009/08/25/rolling-stone-revisits-the-beatles-breakup/
The latter's take:
"Obviously, the band’s breakup was outwardly dramatic. But, as Gilmore recounts, it had more to do with internal turmoil – a musical parting of the ways between John Lennon and Paul McCartney, conflicting business decisions, simple jealousies – than it did with Yoko Ono’s intrusion into the band."

You never give me your money
You only give me your funny paper
and in the middle of negotiations
you break down

I never give you my number
I only give you my situation
and in the middle of investigation
I break down

Out of college, money spent
See no future, pay no rent
All the money's gone, nowhere to go
Any jobber got the sack
Monday morning, turning back
Yellow lorry slow, nowhere to go
But oh, that magic feeling, nowhere to go
Oh, that magic feeling
Nowhere to go
Nowhere to go

One sweet dream
Pick up the bags and get in the limousine
Soon we'll be away from here
Step on the gas and wipe that tear away
One sweet dream came true... today
Came true... today
Came true... today...yes it did
One two three four five six seven,
All good children go to Heaven

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Mar 4, 2010 10:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

Funny how we can all read the same story and come away with slightly different impressions.

Perhaps because of the vague connection I have with Allan Klein, through his buxom daughter and her grey cashmere sweater (and some teenage hormones), my take was that John and Yoko favored Allan Kleins management, while John was preferential to Linda's family.

After reading that story I was convinced that Yoko was a c%#t. The segments from that story that are online are incomplete. You need to pull that issue out of your garage and set the record straight...

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Poster: buscameby Date: Mar 3, 2010 12:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

Now that's a ridiculous question, YOKO could hurt you in 3 shakes-- Donna kills long and slow.

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Poster: high flow Date: Mar 3, 2010 12:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

"in 3 shakes".....of a lamb's tail???? Wow. It's been years since I've heard that expression.




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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Mar 3, 2010 5:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

"in 3 shakes".....of a lamb's tail????" hey dire????

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 3, 2010 5:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

I personally think Donna gets kicked around a little too much. However ...

I was listening to this today:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1974-02-23.sbd.kaplan.serafin.198.shnf

and I have to say I started to understand a little more. She is carrying on in a seriously disturbing way in Greatest Story Ever Told, I mean, I'm already kind of cringing and thinking gosh, *stop that*, and all of a sudden she lets out this terrible, unearthly strangled cry. She scared me. I jumped in my seat. Why didn't they reel her in a bit? I truly think there were times she sounded lovely, especially with JGB, but other times, whew!!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffbeep* Date: Mar 3, 2010 7:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

Oh Crikey!! Why did I do that?
And I was in the middle of my dinner!
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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Mar 3, 2010 7:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

What the hell kind of question is this?

Donna just makes me cringe sometimes.

Yoko on the other hand...........

Given the option of listening to Yoko or pulling my kneecaps off with a spoon, I would ask one question.

Soup spoon or salad spoon?

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Mar 3, 2010 8:10pm
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C: FORK

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Mar 3, 2010 12:51pm
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I think they should get together for a duet . . . playin' in the band maybe? That seemed to bring out the best in Donna and I'm sure it could get Yoko howling.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 3, 2010 5:43pm
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Yeah, her contributions in Playin' in the Band were largely ... unnecessary.

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Mar 3, 2010 5:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: which marathon would be worse

Can't we bash Brent for a change? ;)

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